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POLITICS 10/16/2008 |
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MCCAIN IS BACK: In the the third and final debate, McCain finally draws blood, and lays out a narrow path to victory. |
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As a former debate champion and current debate coach, I might have a slightly more reliable perspective on who won a presidential debate than the smirky Obama-shilling Rachel Maddow and her evil twin Keith Olbermann.
"Friends," in real policy debate, delivery is only one of six factors a judge examines in making his or her decision. The other five factors are Analysis, Refutation, Evidence, Organization, and Cross-Examination. And of these six, Evidence trumps all others.
Sadly, presidential debates in this country represent a distant cry from the evidentiary burdens found in real policy debates. Most Americans, especially most young Americans -- who, as a recent survey indicated, can't even name the current prime minister of Britain -- could not handle the evidentiary analysis found in a real policy debate. They easily mistake surface for substance.
As any policy debate judge will tell you, a debater who doesn’t speak particularly well can still carry the day if he or she carries the most important issue in a round. Because in policy debate, evidence and analysis matter far more than sophistry.
In last night’s round the key issue was the economy. And, on that point, McCain stuck Obama with the tax-and-spend label he’s long deserved. Obama will have a hard time backtracking from his pledge to Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher to “spread the wealth around.” Such class warfare rhetoric, such government-led social engineering -- with its echoes of ACORN, Ayers, and Wright -- is precisely what moderate Americans fear from liberal Democrats like Obama. And just like his “guns and religion” slam that cost him Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia in his primary battle with Hillary Clinton, Obama’s continued inability to name any meaningfully large program he will cut as president is telling.
McCain went after Obama on this point like Jake LaMotta pummeling pretty boy Janiro. McCain won big points by claiming he would start with a total spending freeze, “a hatchet” in the metaphor of the day, and then get out “the scalpel.”
Going forward, McCain has a winning argument here. Obama can be painted as so beholden to big-government constituencies, so risk-averse, and so completely out-of-touch with the new fiscal reality, that he will not take the bold steps necessary to rein in spending. With his signature “scalpel,” Obama can be painted as someone who fiddles around the edges, while Rome burns.
Mandating a major spending freeze is NOT PRETTY, but it represents clear evidence of McCain’s long-held willingness to make difficult, unpopular, and ugly decisions, which have won him begrudging respect on both sides of the aisle. Obama yearns to stay pretty. That may work now with the young, style-obsessed, metrosexual portion of his base – and their rich parents who help foot the apartment bill -- but in one year’s time, when the full effect of the recent global financial meltdown hits home, Americans of all shades and styles will tire of the cool, scalpel-wielding, counter-puncher. They will be mad as hell, and will demand a feisty reformer willing to take a proactive hatchet to entitlements, earmarks, and unnecessary spending. And as evidence of corporate malfeasance mounts, they will want their president to make damn sure that those who benefited from the recent government bailout are not living high on the hog.
McCain wasn’t pretty last night. But by effectively de-coupling himself from the failed policies of G.W. Bush and showing that Obama will not make the huge sacrifices necessary to keep this nation solvent, Crusty John got my ballot.
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| Great post and analysis. You truly are independent as many of your posts are clearly not pro-McCain.
Glad to have you on board. | Thank you, sir.
I was mistaken in endorsing either candidate. Because once I endorse a candidate, they or their most rabid supporters end up pissing me off in some way. It is best that I remain a strictly neutral observer, showing the good, the bad, and the ugly in both major candidates and their campaigns. A true journalist is not partisan. By not making endorsements, I can keep the post-partisan flavor that continues to make the Crotty Farm Report a robust, challenging, and uniquely independent forum.
That said, today's column was not an endorsement. Just stating my take on the debate. A position not covered in mainstream media. | | |
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| With statements like "Obama yearns to stay pretty. That may work now with his young, style-obsessed, metrosexual base – and their rich liberal parents who help foot the apartment bill" are you trying to sound like an ass, Crotty? | Come to New York City. Walk amid the Kool-Aid drinkers. You will see as I see. | | |
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| Now THIS is the debate I was most interested in.
Funny how similar it is to today's action. Take a good look at THIS CLIP below and have a good laugh about the debates of this era!!
http://www.webcastr.com/videos/politics/batman-vs-the-penguin-the-debate.html
| Early evidence of Liberal Media Bias.
Penguin in 2012!
Scratch that. I can't endorse anymore. | | |
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| Unfortunately for Republicans, this time around people are paying attention to more than "tax and spend" soundbites. Almost everyone in America is entirely comfortable with Obama's economic plans, precisely because they perceive the unfairness of the Bush/McCain policy. ---------- In fact, McCain's seething hate-filled confusion last night will finish the job his poor policies and worse politics have started. He looked and spoke like Gollum. He snickered while he put air quotes around the idea of the "health of the mother". ------------ Not cool that you didn't unsubscribe Beverly. | I must have several emails for this Beverly character. I vow to delete them all. The Buddha Way is inconceivable. I vow to attain it. | | |
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| and if by some miracle McCain is elected, he WILL have to tax or borrow, and everyone knows it. | | | |
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| Okay, so go McCain, go Obama, go McCain.
What the hell dude? Just hold off and tell us us after you drop your ballot.
This whole class and intellectual warfare bit YOU have going is getting ridiculous: "That may work now with his young, style-obsessed, metrosexual base – and their rich liberal parents who help foot the apartment bill..." I am part of the Obama base and this description does not fit me and my fellow Obama supporters. You are the one who says your father was a doctor, you went to prep school and Northwestern... I don't know what your style is, other than dynamite, but that description you made may fit you better than the so called Obama base. Frankly, if you look around, not many folks I see appear to be "style obsessed..." anyhow.
I am not trying to pick on you, but you make claims you are just nice gent from Nebraska from modest means, when really that doesn't seem to be the case at all. Maybe its relative to who you mingle with. Being from Nebraska, there your family would likely be viewed as wealthy. In the LA, NY world, perhaps even with your Northwestern student peers... you could be the poor boy from the Plains. I just recommend you don't make claims in this regard b/c it doesn't seem to fit.
Also, let's get real, the Republican base is mixed from the poorest to the wealthiest. So is the Democratic base.
By the way, I liked the Pat Crotty bit about ethanol... while he certainly has style, he doesn't look like a metrosexual.
Keep doing the blog, even though people yell at you. :D
Oh... Go Obama and I am sticking to it. | I guess you haven't been in NYC and seen all the metrosexual Obama-heads asking for your vote. Or all the hipsters in DUMBO and Williamsburg shilling for Obama. I couldn't find ONE event one can attend in NYC to watch a debate and get a balanced spectrum of discussion on the election. It appears that most everybody is in the tank for Obama. Mainly because of STYLE over substance. They write off this old war hero guy because he's a bit cranky, not a smooth sophist like Mr. Obama. But if you get beyond style with McCain, you see that he is a genuine reformer. He will cut taxes. He will cut spending. He will reform Washington. And he will win the wars in Iraq and Aghanistan. I do not see the evidence backing Mr. Obama on these points, for all his elegance, charm, and poise.
My attacks are not personal against you. So, stop being personal with me. Look at the issues. Get beyond style. And the make a reasonable decision. I can see strong points for either candidate. Can you? | | |
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| OK. I see. You're basing your "metrosexual" description of the Obama base on one trip to NYC. There's a well-informed opinion for you. Why don't you come to Southern Indiana with me and talk to the folks who lost their jobs at the Palmolive factory and see what they think of your BS? And, after offending more than half of your readers (I assume), you have the balls to ask for a donation? Good luck with that. | I don't think you read very carefully, sir. First, I said that the young style-conscious metrosexuals are a portion of his base. Not the whole base. Secondly, I have lived in NYC on on and off since 1989, and consistently since 2003. Do you not think I am allowed to attest to what my eyes see daily? Or am I not even allowed that freedom by the Obama PC Police?
A donation should be given for providing the first forum I know of that offers genuine independent thinking and discourse. You prefer that a site engage in raging partisanship? Fox News but of the Left? There are plenty of them. Start with Talking Points Memo, Daily Kos, and Huffington Post. They would be happy to receive your loving and clearly deeply thought-out support. | | |
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| "Crusty John got my ballot"? Who will get it tomorrow? Bob Barr? Ralph Nader? Seems you're as fickle as McCain is "erratic!" As to Obama's economic naivete. Obama has run a campaign that enters these last weeks flush with cash, unlike Hillary Clinton (your former crush) and McCain who both had major fiscal challenges. Maybe Barack's not just an empty suit after all.
By the way, the "kool-aid" comments come off to me as petty, jealous, and arrogantly disrespectful to our fellow citizens. Good luck with the political speed-dating. | I think you forgot to read the comments area, sir. This article is not an endorsement of Mr. McCain. As I made clear, I am not endorsing anyone. I got briefly caught up in the need to endorse in previous columns. And for that I apologize to all readers of CFR. It is not in keeping with the post-partisan aims of CFR for its founder to endorse any candidate. The issues are too important for such silly posturing. | | |
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| I will openly grieve if McCain and Palin find their way into the White House. I've never felt that way in my entire life. Sorry to hear that your casting your vote for this angry, do-whatever-it-takes to win pair.
Truly a pity. | Please see comments elsewhere in this forum. I am NOT ENDORSING either candidate. Can we all please get this clear: JAMES MARSHALL CROTTY IS NOT ENDORSING EITHER JOHN MCCAIN OR BARACK OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT OF THESE HERE UNITED STATES. I made a mistake in two earlier columns-- once endorsing McCain, once endorsing Obama. I am sorry. I should not be endorsing anyone. It's not the purpose of CFR to be overtly partisan. For this mistake, I am willing to be pilloried in a public square. Union Square, if you must. By Spartacus Youth League Members, if you feel so inclined. Heck, by ACORN canvassers in league with unrepetant former members of the Weather Underground in solidarity with Rednecks for Obama and Billionaires for Bush. Whatever it takes. | | |
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| I saw a slightly different debate, I guess. McCain was hard hitting, but his promises and proposals made no sense. How is he going to deliver all of him amazing proposals with spending freeze? Anyone can stand up there and say they are going to give every American $5,000 in cash, win all the wars we are fighting, lower taxes, eliminate our oil dependency, restore morality and have leprechauns fart rainbows. The problem is that he doesn't have a plan to make that happen because no such plan can exist. I don't know if Obama was too worried about playing it safe that he didn't call McCain on any of that, but he dropped the ball there. He just defended himself against retarded fear mongering irrelevant attacks like the total non-issue of his remote association with Ayers (whose history has been distorted) and McCain's claims about what he insists Obama's stances on issues are.
As a point of clarification - during a debate, if you make stuff up and you are not challenged by you opponent, does that make you the victor? Maybe it does. I do think Obama failed miserably to challenge McCain. I understand leaning towards McCain only because I would like to see him deliver on that leprechaun thing. | 1. I am researching the leprechauns farting rainbows. More on that soon.
2. I deal with the Ayers stuff elsewhere in the comments area.
3. The key point you make is that McCain cannot afford his promises. I've already noted that Obama cannot name one specific program that would have a significant effect on the budget that he could cut. But here is where McCain has explicity said he is going to cut:
-- earmarks (at least 20 billion a year and probably much more)
-- ethanol subsidies (a position that cost him Iowa)
--a host of other government subsidies and protectionist hoo-hah.
He will not cut defense, veterans care, Social Security, and health care. Frankly, I think that leaves far too much off the table. I think we should SIGNIFICANTLY cut our defense expenditures, start closing some bases, and so on. And I think we should take a big cut into the social services the federal government provides and get nonprofits and localities to pick up the slack. That would help. Also, there needs to be a huge cut in Medicaid and Medicare. As people get the tax break to buy their own insurance, these cuts can be made. McCain can't say this specifically during a campaign, but it's got to happen or this country will go broke. | | |
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| I am always amazed that two people see the same thing and have completely different views. Keeping in mind that the candidates were not really trying to capture my attention, I have made a decision. The campaigns have long been about addressing the undecided voter.
That said, I think the undecided voter saw an unpleasant man in McCain last night. He was aggressive, often disingenuous and occasionally careless - not traits that most of us want in our next president (especially in these dangerous times). Obama, like Reagan in 1980, offered a solid, secure sounding alternative.
Jim, McCain may have won the debate, but he continued to lose the war. I have not seen post debate polls, but I would not be surprised to see Obama increase his gain after this debate. | Hi Don.
No doubt about it, Obama’s demeanor is pleasing and articulate. In this piece I asked readers to look beyond style to the core substance of issues. Also, McCain enjoyed a sizable bump in at least one poll after the debate.
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| U.S. election star "Joe the Plumber" lacks license
http://www.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=USN1639355520081016
CINCINNATI, Oct 16 (Reuters) - After Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama made him into the most famous plumber in America, it turns out Joe Wurzelbacher isn't a licensed plumber after all. Oh, and his real name is Sam.
...the Association of Plumbers, Steamfitters and Service Mechanics revealed that Wurzelbacher was not a licensed member of their trade.
"That means that he has not completed the training program necessary for him to sit for a license test," said Tony Herrera, market recovery specialist for Plumbers and Steamfitters Local 50 in Toledo, Ohio. ... Without a license, Wurzelbacher cannot practice in the city of Toledo but can work for someone with a master's license or in outlying areas that do not require a license, Herrera said.
... Wurzelbacher has declined to say who he will vote for in the Nov. 4 election. "It's a personal decision, and myself and the button I push will know the answer... I want the American people to vote for who they want to vote for" in an informed way. ...
McCain repeatedly invoked Wurzelbacher in their third and final debate on Wednesday as they sought to appeal to average Americans. ...
Wurzelbacher told ABC he was "not even close" to earning $250,000 but worried that Obama would raise taxes for those making less.
... For their part, the plumbers at the Local 50 union hall said they would love to find a job that would give them the kind of income Wurzelbacher is worried about being taxed by Obama.
"If there's a plumber or pipefitter making more than $250,000, we want to know where he's working," Herrera said with a laugh. "We don't make that kind of money."
The plumber's union, like almost all labor groups in America, backs the Democratic Party.
"The real Joe the Plumber supports Barack Obama," Herrera said. | First, DR, the Obama camp is disingenous on this point. It's quite clear that Joe is leaning towards Mr. McCain, though he has not officially said so. Knowing this, the Obama campaign went out of its way to dig up dirt on Joe. Is this the "New Politics" Mr. Obama speaks of? I don't mind digging up dirt, but let's stop this sanctimonious rhetoric from Camp Obama that somehow you folks are any different from any other campaign. Do you think there would be all this Obama supporter hysteria over Palin's teen daughter and Palin's doings in Alaska if Palin was the Democratic VP cnadidate? The Obama Campaign, and especially its unofficial supporters, have proven they are willing to play ad hominem hardball. Welcome to the club.
Secondly, the taxation issue related to Joe is very complicated. Obama has said repeatedly that he would not penalize small businesses who do not provide health insurance for their employees or families. However, he has yet to clarify what he means by "small business." Obama does mandate that all children get coverage. That means Joe himself would have to pay for insurance for his kids or would be fined. And we still don't know what that fine will be. Obama won't exactly specify, despite being pressed on it for weeks.
Finally, that magic $250,000 number. Since many small businesses file as individuals (I do), if Joe's plumbing business makes $250,000, he would pay higher taxes under Senator Obama's plan. So, yes, individual plumbers may not make 250 grand, but a plumbing business, with several employees, could.
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| A number of the highest profile, most respected, and sometimes arch- conservative commentators no longer support McCain/Palin. Some of them are supporting Obama - Buckley, Hitchens, etc. Some said publicly that they may vote for Obama - Will, Noonan. Others who have expressed serious doubts/concerns - Brooks, Krauthammer, etc.
More information at www.thepoliticalpapers.com
| Hello again, sir. It would be helpful if you listed your name, not just the publication you are pushing.
Regarding each person you mention:
Buckley. Yes, he has been a contributor to his father's National Review, but on many issues the son has long been more liberal than the father. He's a decent chap. I share his distaste for big-government. And many of his criticisms I had previously echoed in my recent criticisms of the McCain campaign. But I think McCain and Palin have effectively toned down the guilt-by-association ad hominem rhetoric. As I mentioned many times, the Ayers and Wright stuff is only relevant in that it amplifies our understanding of Mr. Obama's policy views. Just like Obama's listing of his advisors during the third debate, these other advisors in his life also tell us about his views. But that does not mean, as I have made very clear, that Obama is a terrorist or a bigot simply because Ayers was a terrorist and Wright is a bigot. I drew that clear bright line long ago.
Hitchens is hardly a conservative, a moderate, or an independent. He’s a liberal who happens to believe that sometimes the defense of liberal principles requires vigorous use of military force. I think his unique take on liberalism has been extremely helpful in the discourse about the Iraq War. Since he probably agrees with Mr. Obama on most everything else besides the Iraq War, I am not surprised by his endorsement.
As for the inimitable Will, the delightful Noonan, the sensible Mr. Brooks and the at-times irascible Mr. K, I have yet to see their categorical endorsement of Mr. Obama. They, like me, were upset over the tone and direction that the McCain campaign took in past weeks. And the chaotic nature of the campaign’s organization and messaging. Now that the campaign seems to have changed its ways, I expect them all to endorse McCain in the end. I could be wrong, though. And I think there are valid reasons to endorse either candidate. I think with either choice the country will be much better off than it has been under the failed leadership of G. W. Bush.
Thank you for your post.
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| Through the past century, Democratic presidents have been better for the US economy on almost every measure. Since the Depression (1929, not the potentially impending). Since WWII. With or without a year or two's lag for a president's policies to take effect. See www.thepoliticalpapers.com 10/7/08 for details based on the Executive Office of the President and the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors' February 2008 Economic Report of the President. | I would like to deal with this claim in a future CFR. There have been several articles on this claim recently. And, of course, it comes down to how you define "better for the US economy." Upon that definition rests the fundamental difference between the two major parties. I am not trying to avoid the point, but it deserves a serious rejoinder. I want to thank you for bringing it up. | | |
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| I read your posts in detail, sir. If fact, I copied and pasted your actual statement in a previous comment. This is what you said, "Obama yearns to stay pretty. That may work now with his young, style-obsessed, metrosexual base – and their rich liberal parents who help foot the apartment bill" You added "portion" after a couple of us called you on your BS. To then accuse me of not reading closely is offensive. You are losing more respect from me all the time. | Dear Tim C:
I put my full name and address and more on this site, why can't you reveal your last name? If you did, then maybe you will be more understanding in your replies.
To your point, Tim. It's really just a question of posting protocol. I know other online journalists go through the same process. So that there is no misunderstanding, let me explain how this works. First, I write the article in Word. I then post it in the CFR CMS (content management system). I then go back and forth checking between the CMS and how the article appears on CFR. You sometimes can't see errors or poorly worded phrases properly until you see the piece posted for the public on the site. Invariably, during this back-and-forth process, folks, especially folks who have received RSS feeds alerting them there is a new post on the site, upload quick responses to the piece. It's an unfortunate byproduct of this editing process that responses come in before I am done fully tweaking the piece online. And, yes, in this case, as I was editing, I did notice a very quick and early response to the article (probably because this time it wasn't my normally LONG take on an issue). A person was upset by the wording of the "metrosexual" claim. I had noticed the same when writing it, so I made the change very quickly before noticing if others had responded. Sorry. My intention was not to say all Obama supporters fit this tongue--in cheek description, but that a healthy percentage do. Especially in urban areas like New York City. Adding the word "portion" clarified my intention without appreciably changing the point.
Thank you for your continued patience with this process. And sorry for my dig. It's easy to understand now why there was the confusion. | | |
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I can't tell what your point is anymore. For the past month you appear to have completely lost your mind. You make flip-flopping look like stubborness. And your logic is completely lacking. It was Obama who answered the question about which programs he would cut. McCain simply said he do some cutting and mentioned the same old tired lines he's been recycling for months with no specificity. Using the 'metrosexual' idea in your political argument is completely absurd, stupid and mean. I'm not sure why I'm reading your articles anymore. You have devolved your arguments into the most petty and bizarre ideas and have reduced your comments to no better than the inane pundits who we have had thrown in front of us for decades who don't have a clue about how to debate an issue, interview anyone effectively or analyze what people really mean and state the truth about it. Where'd you go?
| To the points, Richard:
1. "It Was Obama Who Answered the Question About Which Programs He Would Cut."
The broader point here was Obama's unwillingness to break with party ranks to achieve real spending reductions. According to Congressional Quarterly, Obama has voted with his party 97% of the time. Talk about party loyalty. McCain has voted with his party a far lesser percentage. There is no dispute on this point.
The one shining example that Obama gave in the third debate of breaking with his party is S.5,a 2005 bill providing tort reform. 41% of his fellow Democratic Senators ALSO voted in favor of that bill. You could hardly classify Obama as a courageous maverick. There just is no record of him breaking ranks on a consistent basis.
Now to specific spending cuts. Here's what Senator Obama said in the third debate:
"And some of the cuts, just to give you an example, we spend $15 billion a year on subsidies to insurance companies. It doesn't -- under the Medicare plan -- it doesn't help seniors get any better. It's not improving our health care system. It's just a giveaway.
We need to eliminate a whole host of programs that don't work. And I want to go through the federal budget line by line, page by page, programs that don't work, we should cut. Programs that we need, we should make them work better."
After 20 months of campaigning, and being asked this question countless times, Senator Obama can only name ONE program he would cut. A $15 billion program, whose elimination would not make a dent in our deficit? C'mon. It's obvious, the man is extremely vague on this point and doesn't want to be pinned down for fear of upsetting a key constituency. The best solution, in these dire times, and after a huge government investment in the market, is to have an across-the-board spending freeze. And THEN go in with a scalpel and cut specific necessary programs even more. McCain is totally right on this point.
Regarding the metrosexual point, I deal with that elsewhere in the comments area.
Thank you for your continued support.
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| C'mon, Jim...a spending freeze is akin to wearing 'WIN' buttons for Gerald Ford...very general and unimaginative.
Come back from Geezerland! I think it was his worst debate yet. All attacks and gimmicks. America is SOOO tired of his rap. | I deal with the spending freeze below under Mr. Ramer's post. "America" is a pretty broad group, my friend. You might want to be a little more specific. The recent Gallup Poll shows a 49% to 47% Obama lead among likely voters. I still think Obama will win, but I wouldn't count the geezer out just yet. | | |
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| My sources suggest that we may not know the outcome of the election until January or later. Check out this piece which claims Obama is not eligible to be president. It's about the fifth one I've seen. Show us the proof you're natural-born, Obama! http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20168225&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8
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| Yes, yes-- I'm randy for an Obama/Biden victory! Face it-- you endorse McCain. That's YOUR cool-aid. Own it. And, the geezer war hero card is every bit as agregious as the race card. We must not be age-ist. The elders of the tribe are just as capable of greatness or failure as anyone. And for me the maverick bit is getting as old as staged spontaneity or any other faked orgasm. (Yes, yes-- there is a time and place. Ask any conservative blonde talking head defending John or his intellectually superior running mate as woman of the century.) Washington Post endorsed Obama today because of "Disappointment in the McCain Campaign and Irresponsible choice of running mate. The point is, while we all bring our own issues and baggage to the table, there seems to be an excess of issues "baggage" in your analysis. I'm sorry that for whatever reason the New Yorkers and so-called metrosexuals are getting to you. I think it's clouding your vision. Next poll-- how many male Obama supporters have ever had a manicure or spa treatment. Anyway-- off to the reality of the day-- calling a plumber to fix a leak. And I'm NOT calling Joe the Plummer. He's not really a plummer. No liscense-- another ficticious "common man!" And just how did he manage to get time off of work to be front row and on camera at TWO rallies. This is political theater at its transparent best. The sad thing is-- people buy it! Jerry Springer is so much easier than informed analysis. Must ask my bartender if a cosmo is just spiked coolaid. Keep the passion-- but CHILL!! Even Andrew Sullivan saw the light. Not saying you're an American Gothic Andrew Sullivan. We like you better. But breathe deep. Stretch. Political pilates. Calm | Here's an interesting and irreverent discussion of intellectual conservatives' abandonment of McCain.
http://gawker.com/5062721/hitch-joins-all+star-roster-of-anti+mccain-smart-republicans
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| Tim's comments make sense to me, and I don't think wtf was attacking you personally. Wtf said positive things in the comment as well. Finally, you can't expect all you readers will drink your kool-aid and not have a comment, even an angry comment. If you out Tim C., then you do make it personal. You are the blogger, and opinionated so I know you have a thicker skin than that.
As for topic, this race is not over at all. Some folks are of course blindly in the tank for one candidate or the other, but I do not think that really reflects the majority. Jim, you know in your gut who you want to vote for, just do it. Don't be easily swayed by the last waning sound bytes of the campaign. Besides, some folks you just can't convince, you can't change their convictions. In this case, that is fine with me. I believe you are trying to convince yourself with these posts. That's cool.
I am supporting Obama based on the policy positions of his that I support, and I appreciate his eloquence and demeanor. John McCain of the town hall meetings and straight talk express is certainly appealing, and I don't think anyone should portray him as "crusty". I feel he says what needs to be said even when its painful to hear. He's changed since he's made the move to appeal to the Repub base. I don't want that McCain as president. The old McCain, straight talk express McCain I wouldn't mind as president. For me, I disagree with his aggressive military policy and trade policies. On energy, I support McCain's stance on nuclear energy, but there is not enough on reducing our energy dependency as a whole, and he supports drilling, but not ethanol. I am angry at the Oil companies and the Haliburton's, KBR's that will benefit from this drilling. They have reaped record profits far too long. Ethanol will still benefit oil companies I know. I don't want Brazil's fuel or crops based on what they do to produce it and what U.S. demand encourages them to produce. | I think there is truth in the claim that I am trying to convince myself. In the end, that is one key purpose of these musings, as it is for any writer. Why does a writer write a novel? To see how it ends. That's my take anyway. But I was quite sincere in my comments when I said that I do want this to be a post-partisan forum. That doesn't preclude partisan opinions, but it does mandate that I, the founder, stay clear away from endorsing. I want all sides to feel that they are welcome here, which they clearly are. I don't want this to be yet another kneejerk partisan forum: from Huffington Post to Daily Kos to Fox News to MSNBC it's just one big partisan screamfest out there. Hopefully we can actually have some civilized discussions about policy here. And admit when we were wrong or off-base. I was off-base when I made endorsements. And, again, I apologize for that. Watch for radically new improvements in CFR coming soon. Also, I am looking for new bloggers.
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